The letter M

[msmemory_archive]

Updating the OP, checking for registered names, spelling stuff, etc. Leading to all kinds of questions which could easily become digressions and keep me from making any progress at all.

Was Malkin Grey in the East or Atlantia when she got her Pelican? {I could go check Atlantia's split off date....]
Does Mairi still consider herself Eastern, and has she submitted that change of name yet?
Should I take Mahin out now that she resides in AEthelmearc?

Must concentrate. Want to finish three pages of the draft today. There are after all 103 pages in this edition.

Comments

[lanome.livejournal.com]

I noticed my AoA got moved to my new name, by the way. Assuming that was you, thank you!

[lumineaux.livejournal.com]

If you need help tracking anything down, give a holler.

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

I'll keep you in mind for southern region stuff, thanks!

Latest curiousity is a Northern one: Are Meara of Vieux Bourg and Meara of Havre des Glaces the same person? (likely enough)

[freya46.livejournal.com]

Most likely but I'll check on it for you, shall I?

[freya46.livejournal.com]

Yup. Meara is Meara is Meara. :-) Vieux Bourg used to be the Canton of Havres des Glaces. It no longer exists. :-)

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

Glad to know about Meara (sorry about Vieux Bourg). I appreciate your investigating! I'll consolidate her two awards under HdG, unless she's gotten a new surname.

[freya46.livejournal.com]

I'd say go with what you've got. :-)

[herooftheage.livejournal.com]

Malkin is in fact a fascinating case. She was inducted in the kingdom of Atlantia, but not by the Crowns. They had planned on inducting her at a later event, but she and Ewan were moving out of kingdom (here, in fact), and the monarchs couldn't make the event, and so gave permission for the Order to induct her. If I recall correctly, Mistress Tanis of Tyr-y-Don presided.

I wasn't at the event, unfortunately, though I would have gone if I'd realized it was happening. One of the downsides of the east coast splintering into several kingdoms is that stuff happens to friends that you don't hear about in time.

[bubbette.livejournal.com]

"Today's posting is brought to you by The Letter M."

[rufinia.livejournal.com]

Do you take people when they move? Is there some sort of "historical" record of people? I'm still in the Midrealm and Northshield OPs, for example.

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

I take people out of the alphabetic section; the alpha list is only current residents. But you'll stay forever on the roll of Maunches (for example), no matter where you may live later.

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

Mahin is (damnit) saying she ain't moving back.

Mairi declared herself a subject of AEthelmearc years ago. You may have to create a new precedent for handling that.

[baronessmartha.livejournal.com]

You are very nice to say that just that way. It is true, I have the best job I have ever had and it is in no current danger of evaporating.

[meirwen.livejournal.com]

Actually, shouldn't the phrasing of that be "The Crown of the East released her and the Crown of AEthelmearc accepted her petition for citizenship"? It doesn't matter what a subject declares, only what the Crown accepts.

As to the other, I'll ask her about whether the new name has gone through Laurel.

[patrikia.livejournal.com]

I am officially a subject of AEthelmearc, via Corpora (paperwork filed and everything). The new name has not been officially registered (I would explain, but, oh never mind! Teh stupid, it burnz!). -Mairi ni Raghaillaigh (aka Maria Agrissa Sgourina)

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

OK, like Mahin I'll take you out of the Alpha.

What about Mord? East or AEthelmearc?

[patrikia.livejournal.com]

Mord - still East! We joke that there is a line down the middle of the bed, and the citizenry rate goes up or down depending on which side of the line the cats are sleeping on... :-)

[baron-steffan.livejournal.com]

It can get pretty hinky, though. There is in my household a lady who lives in Meridies, has for decades now. She travels a lot, so much so we see her more than some local friends. She's an Easterner, always has been since she went to school here ~30 years ago. Doesn't go to Meridies events. She's frequently at Bridge and EK/RP events. She gets Pikestaff, not Popular Chivalry. Most people, I'm sure, think she's a Bridgie, or maybe a resident of Carolingia (which she once was). Keep in mind I don't think the Meridean Crown even knows she exists, so the "what the [Meridean] Crown accepts" (or releases) is moot. No "paperwork" has, to my knowledge, ever passed, beyond her checking off "Pikestaff" on her subscription form.

Exercise for the interested reader: Is she an Easterner or a Meridean?

Actually, I know the "answer"

[(Anonymous)]

By the rules as laid out in Corpora, she's Meridian. Which only matters if she wants to hold a kingdom office somewhere, be a territorial Baroness, or be fought for in a Pallatine barony, principality, or crown list.

In all other respects, there isn't any difference unless a local group's by-laws say so, and most don't. If you want to play, and work, and hold office at the local level, it's fine.

At that point, it's about the heart.

But then, I can say that--I'm not the precedence herald, and we all know what sticklers they can be. ;-)

Re: Actually, I know the "answer"

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

[sticklers]
Heh. Much of what I know I learned at Steffan's knee when I was only his protegee!

The anonymous comment

[meirwen.livejournal.com]

Ooops--that was me. I forgot I was logged out of LJ. My bad.

[pelican-girl.livejournal.com]

Awesome...
I love those kinds of tangents, they make great stories. Like Steffan's new "Customs" yahoo group.

[baronessmartha.livejournal.com]

it depends on your usage.
I do live in Aethlemaerc, but received all my awards in the East. Is the OP a reflection of Eastern History or is it a reflection of the current residents?

Do what is less work for you is my best advice. If something makes you nuts, fix it. If it pleases you, leave it as is.

edited because I can't talk about myself in 3rd person.

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

As I mentioned to Rufinia, the alphabetic section is current residents, but the rolls of order members (including AOA) is everybody who got an award from the East, ever, no matter where, or whether, they live now.

[evilnicola.livejournal.com]

Only slight off-topic anthropological question. Can you get 2 QHDs from the same queen? I know you can get multiples from different monarchs.

I ask, because of Mom's entry

*Nataliia Anastasiia Evgenova Sviatoslavina vnuchka
(other awards cut)
03/24/2007 Queen's Honor of Distinction (Jana IV)
04/14/2007 Queen's Honor of Distinction (Jana IV)

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

I know of no reason why you couldn't. Especially if the queen wanted to acknowledge two or more specific incidents or accomplishments - but the queen need not explain herself.

[evilnicola.livejournal.com]

Just wondering. Like, I know one person could only get one queen's cypher per reign, wasn't sure if qhds were the same

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

Nope, no limit.

[baron-steffan.livejournal.com]

In fact, the QHD was very strictly worded to be vague enough, and to place as little restriction on the Queen's will, as possible. So, um, yeah, no limits.

Speaking of Updates

[bernina2000de.livejournal.com]

Did you get my email regarding the information on those Newfoundlanders? I had not heard back from you - I sent it to the waks at ....address

(And thank you again)