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For those of you I've tortured since lunchtime, the news may now be given: Justin and I have been invited to join Lochleven, and have accepted with delight. We're looking forward to deepening our friendships with them, and participating fully in the household (beyond having been their Guests at the last few Pennsics).

Squeee!

Date: 2007-09-11 01:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tpau
or i guess mroe specifically... we do not do the feudal system. I am not in fealty to her and never will be...

Date: 2007-09-11 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-man.livejournal.com
From the outside, you're in fealty to her. As her protege, people would describe you as a feudal dependent, regardless of what oaths you've sworn or not.

Date: 2007-09-11 01:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tpau
ah. that is unfortunate.

Date: 2007-09-11 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmemory.livejournal.com
She is in my service, not in fealty to me, by mutual agreement. But I understand that claiming the title and belt of a protegee makes people believe she's in fealty.

Date: 2007-09-11 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-man.livejournal.com
Right -- I absolutely understand that, and I understandf why Tpau's not in fealty to you. But people will describe her as a 'feudal dependent' as a catch-all phrase. She is your protege; proteges are feudal dependents. Therefore...

Date: 2007-09-11 05:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-09-11 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairdice.livejournal.com
Interesting! Back when Fiammetta and I were "the apprentices", I don't think there was any feeling of feudal relationship -- though of course we didn't see it from the outside, so maybe I just didn't notice.

But they were pre-peerage back then. Perhaps that made the relationship clearly outside the feudal structure? (Not to mention that the society changes over 15+ years.)

Date: 2007-09-11 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] new-man.livejournal.com
(Hi Gwydden!)

It was actually you two I was thinking of. I had a distinct impression that you were 'Silverwing' by dint of the fact that you were apprenticed to Justin.

Date: 2007-09-12 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamstliam.livejournal.com
Some people might.

I certainly do not look at my proteges that way.

Although, I do see them as having a connection to Silverwing.

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