Not as bad as 33

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The list I have of Crown entrants is 35 people. Perhaps a little attrition will happen and they'll get down to a perfect 32 by Saturday morning.

Luckily for me, since I'm not able to take tomorrow off to make the journey, THL alethea_eastrid is going to take care of forming up the procession according to my numbered list. (Any of my readers wanting a copy of the sequenced list in advance may contact me. I might even get arm-twisted to post it here.)

ETA: OK, OK. Why not. ETA2: Corrected.

1 (Herr) Lienhart Fischer von Torum
2 Damon Von Drachenklaue
3 Matthew of Wiltshire
4 Lord Joseph of House Serpentius
5 Lord Horace of Serpentius
6 Lord Atreides Coridan
7 Lord Sawney of Distant Shore
8 Lord Manfred
9 Lord Turi MacKinnon
10 Lady Cornelia Vande Brugg
11 Lord Asgar Roulfsun
12 Lord Big Damn John (Big Damn Lord John?)
13 Lord Perceval Gower
14 Lord Nicholas of Losthaven
15 Lord Ragnar the Frogg
16 Lord Guthfrith Yrlingson
17 Lord Barnabus O'Pheylan
18 Lord William Lancton
19 Lord Ceawlin Alreding
20 Lord Edmond O'Rourke
21 Baron Aethelhawk Keyfinder
22 Baron Diomedes Sebastianus
23 Baron Wulfhere of Stonemarche
24 Baron Berach MacTavish
25 Baron Lachlan Mac an Toisich of Benchar
26 Sir Edward Grey of Lochleven
27 (Syr) Yesungge Altan, Bahadur
28 Sir Wilhelm von Ostenbrücke
29 Master Julien de LaPointe
30 Pan Jan Janowicz Bogdanski
31 Sir Kenric of Warwick
32 Count Sir Gryffith Fitzwilliam
33 Jarl Valgard Stonecleaver
34 Duke Darius Aurelius Serpentius
35 Duke Andreas Eisfalke Von Ulm


I'm feeling eld. Kenric, little brother, is the senior bestowed peer in the list, other than royal peers. Yikes!

Comments

Re: Geeky Questions

[lumineaux.livejournal.com]

I mildly object to the use of Esq. in the SCA on the grounds that I had to go through three years of law school and pass a bar exam to get that title. I find it disconcerting to see someone assuming a title still in use as a modern professional title (like Doctor) without having the qualifications. But, as I said, it's only an "eh, I wish he wouldn't do that" and I'm not about to expend a whole lot of energy on it beyond two LJ posts.

Re: Geeky Questions

[baron-steffan.livejournal.com]

Oh, I just remembered this data point. I've read and heard on more than one occasion that if one is a degreed college graduate, one is, at least by courtesy, entitled to the designation, by some British custom of which I know little else. I have no idea when that became custom, but I've run into it in more than one instance, including myself as it happens. Back in the days of hard mail, I subscribed to the newsletter of The Heraldry Society, and it came addressed to Steven Mesnick, Esq. I find it hard to believe that THS of all folks (founded by J.P. Brooke-Little) would mess that up, and I assume it was correct by some obscure Brit lights. I've also been told by a (non-lawyer) graduate of Cambridge that she had that right by virtue of her degree.

The restriction of "...,Esq." to attorneys appears to be a particular American custom. Of course, I Am Not A Lawyer, and I'm not claiming infallibility, but that's what I've been led to understand.

We don't generally get worked up about the assumption of ecclesiastical titles, for example. Why then be upset about an SCA squire using "Esquire", for which -- it may well be argued -- he has a far stronger right?

BTW...I call my Pelican proteges and Laurel apprentices "esquires", on the analogy of Knights of the Bath, who were (and are, IIRC) entitled to name two Esquires of the Bath at their investitures.