Augmentation

[msmemory_archive]

Blush. People are saying the nicest things about my work :) I love it, but it's embarrassing.

So what shall I use to augment my arms? The Crown did not specify, so I believe I get to choose and submit the modification myself. (Hm, probably get to pay for it myself too.)

Not doing this with a poll, just opening discussion. I could have what I think of as the default thing, a (metal) canton charged with a blue tyger passant, the badge of the people of the East. This tyger could be plain, or he could be bearing something - a shepherd's crook, since I am Shepherd's Crook Herald? or some totem of Thorvald and Svava who gave me the right to augment?

Someone on the East list suggested I charge the canton with Hebrew letters, but given my arms (see icon) I think that's not a good idea.

What else am I missing that I might like better?

Comments

[tpau]

i likethe sheapard's crook idea, both by itself and with hte tiger :)

[tpau]

oh yeah, the hebrew letters, all other things aside, the whole point is that these are people who do not knwo who they are. proclaiming being one of them seems... wrong...

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

I keep thinking a book....

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

Oooh! Oooh!
Just a book, or a tyger with a book?

[gyzki.livejournal.com]

Or a book with a crook? It almost sings, doesn't it?

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

I think that should be up to you. But I think of you as managing books - either historian's, or heraldic, or using a ledger to organize a march of precedence, or maintaing a Royal Schedule, or organizing a poll.

So, I think just a book. What you scribble on the cover is up to you. :-)

A book with a tyger and crook on the cover might be just the thing...

augmentation.

[corwyn-ap.livejournal.com]

I think it should be clear by looking at it, that it is an augmentation. Is there some standard or tradition about these things?

I like the canton with a tyger. Anything more is going to get hard to paint or recognize. Would a tyger in canton (i.e. fieldless) work?

Congratulations!

Re: augmentation.

[jducoeur]

A charged canton is the most common approach for an augmentation, although I gather that a charged escutcheon in the middle is also considered normal...

[antoniseb.livejournal.com]

I am interested in knowing how this works out. Somehow, I thought that it was simply putting the Arms of the East in the Upper right corner, or perhaps quarterly with your own, but that would be fugly.

Perhaps a blue tyger spread across the pages of an open book argent superimposed on your cruciform main charge.

[zachkessin.livejournal.com]

Well I don't think Hebrew letters would work for your arms, but I will supply you with some for this post מזל טוב ולחיים!
(Thats Mazel Tov & L'Haim, ie Congraduations & Vivat). I am very happy to hear you got this.

As for what to use a canton with a shepards crook would be my sugestion. Wish I could have been there.

[anastasiav.livejournal.com]

FWIW, I very strongly feel that you should use a blue tyger somehow in it. That will mark the difference between whatever you choose (book, crook, etc) being just and element of your arms and an actual obvious augmentation of your arms. (At least to us heraldic illiterates out there.)

Also, I said this too you in Court but I will repeat it here. Driving back from Pennsic one year not so long ago, Ivan challenged me to come up with a list of awards I would give if I were Queen. It was a very short list, but one I was passionate about (Tibor's Pelican was also on the list), and giving you an Augmentation was on it.

Happily (for all of us) everything on that list has now been completed. I can't think of anyone who deserves the recognition more. Congrats.

[goldenstag.livejournal.com]

An augmentation, eh? Kewl, and congrats! I think the Shepherd's Crook idea is a good one ... I am sure you can come up with something there. Augmentations are very rare in the West. The few times they are given (out this side of the world), they are usually specific (the Pillar of the West grants an augmentation of the voided Crown used on the Western arms, for example, on a green canton, gold crown). An augmentation by itself (not part of another award) is even more rare here -- there are a total of six of them listed in the awards database.

[jducoeur]

They're *slightly* more common here, but still quite rare -- they're basically given to Peers who have gone Above and Beyond. Less than two dozen total...

[nazrynn.livejournal.com]

Congratulations again. :) In the last six and a half years I've been in the SCA, I've managed to bear witness to 3 of the prior augmentations - the book and tyger idea sounds very cool. Whatever you choose, I'm sure it'll look great. *hugs* It was a great moment in court, and I even wore special slippers for the occasion. ;) Vivat!

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

Or I could charge the canton with an Eastern Crown, or the Arms of the East, but that seems presumptuous. Besides, Eastern Crowns are usually drawn in gold, and I'd need a gold or silver canton for contrast, so would have to make the crown colored. (Not to mention whether it would be stepping on the toes of the Eastern Crown Herald, my colleague.) And if I am interpreting the rules correctly, I can't use a crown alone on a canton as it's reserved for Royalty.

If I plunk the blue tyger on the vertex of the cross which is my principal charge, then I have Too Many Layers. Heck, I had the Layers argument the first time I submitted these arms, because of the fretty field and the bordure. Unless one gets a waiver from the Layers rule for an augmentation, which I infer to be the case.

If I use a blue tyger, I'd need permission from the Crown or Kingdom Seneschal - but that shouldn't be hard to get. (Precedent: Da'ud, 9/95)

Thinking aloud...

[jducoeur]

I'd lean away from the Eastern Crown or Kingdom Arms -- regardless of whether you could get away with it, it's too easy to impute presumption to it.

The Layers issue aside, I think a charged canton will work better than putting something into the middle. You want the cross to still be clear and distinctive -- it's Your Charge, and better to keep that recognizeable. A canton would still leave that pretty clear.

The book idea is interesting -- not quite as distinctively an augmentation as the tyger, but easier to draw. I still like the idea of working the shepherd's crook in there somewhere, though...

[mikekn]

I don't have any good ideas for the augmentation, but I did want to pop in to say congratulations. Congratulations! :)

[anastasiav.livejournal.com]

'd need permission from the Crown or Kingdom Seneschal

If you got a scroll I think you already got permission. :-)

I'd go with either a canton or some quartering (if that's allowed). Still speaking as a non-herald it makes it more obvious to those of us who are heraldically impared ....

Got ya covered

[(Anonymous)]

I got your fee covered. :)

-Thorsbaby