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But at what price? I'm not sure I'm ready to support my independent bookseller charging me $30 more for a book, plus tax, than Amazon does.

Date: 2009-01-23 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat9.livejournal.com
Are you talking about Scappi? Because I had exactly the same thought...

Date: 2009-01-23 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmemory.livejournal.com
Yes indeedy. (And $40 more for the Caliph's Kitchen.)

Date: 2009-01-23 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat9.livejournal.com
Whoa. That's a price difference there. (Or "1/6 of a Brute Force corset.")

Date: 2009-01-23 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmemory.livejournal.com
You're trying to put temptation in my way, aren't you?

Date: 2009-01-23 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat9.livejournal.com
I'm just helpin' ;)

(I bought one at Arisia and am very pleased with it. Also, he recommended a smaller size than I would have guessed, and that made me feel svelte. Honestly, when I first saw your mention of it, all I could think was "Where does she find evening gowns for $130?")

Date: 2009-01-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmemory.livejournal.com
Nordstrom's online clearance, among other places. I'm thinking about this one.
http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/3017254?refsid=183975_1&refcat=0%7e2376776%7e2378685%7e2380947%7e2380968&SourceID=1&SlotID=2&origin=related

But then I'm also thinking about the fun I'd have in Brute Force instead. ;)

Date: 2009-01-23 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat9.livejournal.com
That is just lovely.

(I recently bought a floor length evening gown from Igigi.com during the apres Christmas sales, but they seem to have discontinued it, so I can't show off with a handy link. Curses!)

Date: 2009-01-23 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cat9.livejournal.com
Incidentally, the Learned One reminds me that I should talk up Mary of corsetmaker.net who made my custom corset for me. Beautiful work, insane structural integrity, and available from $169 in the fabric of your choice...

Date: 2009-01-23 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
That's a lovely gown.

It reminds me a bit of one of my favorite gowns from TNG, actually -- one which wasn't spacey at all.

Date: 2009-01-23 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
....Mmmmm.....

....Corsets....

Date: 2009-01-23 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com
Yikes! OTOH, I do like to poke around the used bookstores sometimes. For new books I usually go through Barnes & Noble (because they don't force POD people to use propriety software), and for used I either go through them or Alibris, which at least supports some independent booksellers somewhere...

Date: 2009-01-23 08:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-23 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helwen.livejournal.com
Sorry about that -- Print On Demand. Like Lulu.com.

Re: Amazon -- Amazon created their own POD service, which isn't quite as easy to use or as good quality as Lulu. They then insisted that POD authors use their service if they wanted Amazon to sell their books.

Date: 2009-01-23 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
Of course they did. Sigh.

Date: 2009-01-23 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aneirin-awenyd.livejournal.com
I guess it depends on what you want to buy.

Do you want to buy a book? That will be $X, either way.

Or do you want to buy a book and buy into the promise of continued service from your local bookseller? That will be $30 in addition to the purchase of a book.

I don't give to charities but I do spend a little more to buy locally when I can. I think it amounts to the same thing for me - voting with my money. I can vote to save the whales once a year, or I can vote to save the booksellers in increments every time I buy a book. Or I can vote to grow my children by putting the money I saved into nutritious food for them (and that is where it is at right now - the kids are higher on my list than both the bookseller and the whales).

No judgment here - I have the same struggle when I buy books and other things. And added to the equation is the fact that it takes about 2 gallons of gas to go to town and back, which often makes mail-order appear to be the more environmentally attractive option. But only if you can overlook the fact that locally, I use my own cloth bag, but Amazon uses brand-new cardboard boxes and plastic wrap.

Locally, you pay more but get instant gratification...assuming it's in stock...and by mail-order you pay less but you wait. Locally, your money stays in the community but you pay tax...mail-order, no tax, but your money goes out of state.

It is such a complicated conundrum. I am sure I am not helping at all. (Oops.)

Date: 2009-01-23 10:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alexx-kay.livejournal.com
"Or do you want to buy a book and buy into the promise of continued service from your local bookseller? That will be $30 in addition to the purchase of a book."

The "continued service from my local bookseller" is just not very valuable to me. Not nearly as valuable as the difference in prices most of the time.

For several months now, I've been buying 90% of my new graphic novels via Amazon. I started doing that when I noticed that a book that retailed for $99, Amazon was offering for about $67 -- *more* than a $30 difference. And free shipping, to boot.

Amazon is, in about 1% of cases, more expensive than my local stores. But the average discount is more like 15%, and it sometimes goes over 40%. My book habit is still large enough that that makes a significant difference in my cash flow.

Date: 2009-01-23 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oakleaf-mirror.livejournal.com
The guideline I've generally used is if I find a book I want by browsing in an independent bookstore, I buy it there, even if it turns out I could get the book for less, online. I figure I'm rewarding them for being there to bring the book to my attention.

If, on the other hand, I already know I'm looking for a particular book, then I'll give them a chance to be competitive (and immediacy of delivery and lack of shipping charges weigh in their favour), but will not pass up bargains online, just because there's a local source.

And the local shop looses any advantage when they offer to order something for me, because they don't have it on the shelves. If they can't put it in my hands that moment, I'll order it directly, myself, if that means I'll get is faster or cheaper.

Date: 2009-01-23 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cellio
That's my approach too. If a store brings something to my attention I want, and it's not outrageous, I just buy it. If I already know what I want, best deal wins (factoring in costs in time and money). And I see no point to having a local store place an order for me that will then be more hassle for me to go get, when I can instead get it sent right to my doorstep.

Date: 2009-01-23 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mare-in-flames.livejournal.com
That's a pretty nice slice for them even assuming they had to order the book from Amazone themselves....

Usually....

Date: 2009-01-23 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bunnyjadwiga.livejournal.com
I buy enough books that I can afford to support my local bookseller by buying books that aren't significantly cheaper via Amazon.

Poison Pen Press, though, has traditionally been my "Achilles heel"...

Date: 2009-01-24 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baron-steffan.livejournal.com
Yep, that's why WalMart and CVS and Home Depot are winning, even though everyone acknowledges that they're evil.

Yeah, evil. Competition is one thing. Competition made the USA great. The WalMarts don't want to compete. They want to annihilate. Walmart envisions a day when you drive along the interstate and there's a huge complex the size of the Pentagon with a "W" on the top, and that's all. They don't want to be the biggest store. They want to be The Store.

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