Sarah, Trig, and Bristol

[msmemory_archive]

In the last week, I have gone from snickering at John McCain's choice for veep, to wondering whether he actually intends to keep her. What if she demurely says "Under the circumstances, Mr. McCain, I feel I can no longer stand as this party's nominee for vice president."

He gets the points for suggesting a conservative and a woman. She gets press. Then he can go back to a secret Plan A and choose another old white guy, during the convention, and claim it's all to mend things up. He can back away from the baby scandals and the brother-in-law and the polar bears, and pick a less-Right guy more like himself, having "shown" that he supports women in high office.

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cynical thoughts

[richenza.livejournal.com]

Of course, he would lose the $$$ she brings in from the pro-life lobby and the NRA...

Re: cynical thoughts

[dsrtao]

Not the NRA. The last issue of American Rifleman (NRA member mag) was 50% "Obama will take away our guns!" articles, 10% "McCain is OK", and 40% gun reviews and lists of the top 10 rifles everyone should own.

Re: cynical thoughts

[richenza.livejournal.com]

What was the publication date on the most recent issue? Had Palin been tapped at that point? I gather that the NRA was not a big fan of McCain, considering him the lesser of two evils, but Palin is a lifetime member and gun enthusiast.

As usual in politics, what interests me is who is paying. Not that both sides don't love their lobbyists...

Re: cynical thoughts

[dsrtao]

I was reading it a day before Palin's announcement. It's not that the NRA isn't a big fan of McCain -- it's that they actively hate Obama.

Re: cynical thoughts

[kimbari.livejournal.com]

they actively hate Obama

Now, what did Obama ever do to them? Or is it the (perceived) "arrogance."

Dipshits.

Re: cynical thoughts

[anastasiav.livejournal.com]

Not really. He's already raised something like 10 million over the weekend. That's $$ he gets to keep.

Re: cynical thoughts

[richenza.livejournal.com]

Right, but he's got to keep it coming. Sadly, $10 million is a drop in the bucket when it comes to a presidential run.

Re: cynical thoughts

[metageek.livejournal.com]

Does that count money that's been pledged, but may not be in his pocket yet?

Re: cynical thoughts

[bunnyjadwiga.livejournal.com]

It seems the NRA members will vote for and shell out to anyone who is the least restrictive-- if they don't shell out *to* McCain's campaign, they'll just campaign *against* Obama like they did to the last 2 Democratic nominees.

Re: cynical thoughts

[digitalemur.livejournal.com]

Yeah, pretty much.

[orlacarey.livejournal.com]

funny I had that same thought

[new-man.livejournal.com]

That's brilliant. Diabolical, but brilliant.

If it happens, McCain has some smart players on his team -- but I don't think it will.

I know McGovern, for example, ran through a bunch of picks for VP before he found someone who would accept, but I can't imagine McCain announcing Palin as his choice for VP without having made sure that she was going to take the job.

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

Oh, either he's the biggest baddest thinker in the world, and knows EXACTLY what the press will say and do...

Or he shot from the hip and hit his foot.

I was thinking this morning about who would be a Palin substitute, and the only name I know that would fit is "Mike Huckabee". Vetted, no known issues, somewhat liberal for a Republican, and a Baptist Minister with sterling Christian credentials.

At this point, McCain can't lose the section of his party that just got excited for the first time since McCain secured the nomination.

I did half-wonder if we'd see a floor fight in the convention. I just picked the wrong convention to wonder about. :-)

[cvirtue.livejournal.com]

Ditto on much of this.

I was somewhat horrified to find myself liking Huckabee last week, when he was interviewed on The Colbert Report. And then I reminded myself of his politics. Why can't people whose positions I loathe be brainless thugs?

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

"Love the sinner, hate the sin". ::laughing hard over here::

I would so much more appreciate someone who is smart, articulate, thoughtful - but disagrees with me, than the small-minded fanatic that will not stop to think about the problems and issues.

Huckabee is just as religious as Obama, as far as I can tell. They just have different visions for what their values mean and how they should be expressed.

I could not vote for Huckabee. But I remain a fan. (Just as I did not vote for GHW Bush, but remain a fan. GWB, not so very much.)

[digitalemur.livejournal.com]

I wish I could find more people who still remained a fan of pols they couldn't vote for, because I think it's actually a healthier way to proceed and more pleasant for all of us. Sorta like how I expect that in a good job search at my job, we'll bring in three candidates I can be a fan of, even if in the end I'm going to vote for one of them.

And lemme tell you, I don't think the McCain campaign met THAT mark with Palin, of bringing in someone you can be a fan of even if you won't vote for her. Cuz sheeeeez!

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

You can work with someone, if you think of them as decent human beings.

Palin might be, or she might be the poster child for the Religious Right that she is being painted. Too soon to tell. She does seem to be a bit unsophisticated in her thinking, but that's a bare first impression.

[multigeek.livejournal.com]

No, if she drops out, it will say quite clearly that McCain didn't do a good job of analyzing his options, and it will reflect very badly on him. No, unless things get really bad, he can't drop her now.

[goldsquare.livejournal.com]

No, she "resigns for family reasons". He can't boot her, but she can quit.

Worse, there can be a floor fight at the convention over it.

Worst: she stays.

[kimbari.livejournal.com]

And who in the hell names their child "Trig," anyway?

Or "Bristol" for that matter.

[rufinia.livejournal.com]

Having grown up in a family of weird names (and being the possessor of one) those look pretty normal, to me.

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't mind "Bristol," (no worse than Chelsea or its ilk) but the first time I heard the baby was "Trig" I figured it was a typo for "Trip," and he was actually Fathers Name III.

[kimbari.livejournal.com]

At least "Trip" is a verb. I don't know what the hell "Trig" is. A typo? (Like you said? :)

Meh. I'm just old fashioned. I named my children Shirley, David, and Joshua. How ordinary!

[cvirtue.livejournal.com]

"Trig" is part of geometry. At least there's not a child named "Drome."

[kimbari.livejournal.com]

At least there's not a child named "Drome."

You sure about that? LOL

[msmemory.livejournal.com]

Do you give any credence to the Grandson theory? (& that Bristol named the baby for her trigonometry class?)

[cvirtue.livejournal.com]

Hadn't heard the part about trigonometry class; I was just being silly (hence the retread of my Palin, Drome joke.) I think somewhere I read that it was a family name (as if that excused a stupid choice; my SIL is named Sutton and her daughter Porter for that reason. *rolls eyes* )

I have no opinion about the "grandson theory" except that if Bristol really is 5 months pregnant, and Trig is hers, there's some very close timing involved indeed.

[baron-steffan.livejournal.com]

That's a brilliantly twisted thought.