I prefer that experience be listed along with some notion of what wonderful things that YOU GOT DONE at each job. I am always suspicious of "we implemented" or whatever. If the noun ain't singular, you got 'splainin to do.
I dunno. I used to share this opinion, but I'm biasing away from it now. The fact is, too many well-run software projects are deeply collaborative to be able to *honestly* say "I" to all of one's work.
In particular, for most of what I spent the last year on, everybody was in everybody else's pockets, pretty much by design. There were some areas that I *led*, but damned near nothing that didn't have other hands all over it. That's a feature, in my book, so I'm sympathetic to it...
In my previous job, we interviewed a lot of candidates who used the term "we", to take credit for work that they didn't do. If you pressed them for details of their particular contribution - they had none.
I appreciate and understand collaboration, and I make good use of it myself. Yet, somehow, I can still say "I co-designed X, wrote half of Y, did Z for the team".
True, but that can get awfully wordy for a resume. And for a junior engineer, in particular, separating the contributions can be tough without running into eye-glazing verbiage (which will cost different points with some people).
Anyway, matter of taste. I don't rule "we" out as a resume item, but it's the kind of thing that I will probe into early in the interview process -- maybe as early as the phone screen, certainly in the first interview. If they can't defend their contribution, they go poing at that point...
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Date: 2008-01-28 06:31 pm (UTC)I dunno. I used to share this opinion, but I'm biasing away from it now. The fact is, too many well-run software projects are deeply collaborative to be able to *honestly* say "I" to all of one's work.
In particular, for most of what I spent the last year on, everybody was in everybody else's pockets, pretty much by design. There were some areas that I *led*, but damned near nothing that didn't have other hands all over it. That's a feature, in my book, so I'm sympathetic to it...
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Date: 2008-01-28 06:34 pm (UTC)In my previous job, we interviewed a lot of candidates who used the term "we", to take credit for work that they didn't do. If you pressed them for details of their particular contribution - they had none.
I appreciate and understand collaboration, and I make good use of it myself. Yet, somehow, I can still say "I co-designed X, wrote half of Y, did Z for the team".
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Date: 2008-01-29 12:02 am (UTC)Anyway, matter of taste. I don't rule "we" out as a resume item, but it's the kind of thing that I will probe into early in the interview process -- maybe as early as the phone screen, certainly in the first interview. If they can't defend their contribution, they go poing at that point...