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msmemory_archive ([personal profile] msmemory_archive) wrote2007-09-10 10:09 pm

Squee update

For those of you I've tortured since lunchtime, the news may now be given: Justin and I have been invited to join Lochleven, and have accepted with delight. We're looking forward to deepening our friendships with them, and participating fully in the household (beyond having been their Guests at the last few Pennsics).

Squeee!
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[personal profile] tpau 2007-09-11 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, but the SCA doesn't really do the feudal system that way...

[identity profile] new-man.livejournal.com 2007-09-11 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
No -- some people in the SCA don't do the feudal system that way. Some do.

Justin (maybe and Caitlin; I don't remember) had students in the past whom I thought were part of Silverwing, despite no direct connection to Steffan. I could be misremembering... or things could have changed.
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2007-09-11 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
No, absolutely not -- Steffan doesn't even particularly *know* half our dependents, and none have ever been members of Silverwing. In that respect we're specifically different from, eg, VDK, which tends to explicitly aggregate fealty in this way.

Besides, I dispute the "how it works" assertion -- the proposition that "the vassal of my vassal is *not* my vassal" is, AFAIK, a reasonably period concept. In reality, it can become complex (both in period and in the SCA), but there's nothing particularly automatic about such a relationship affecting one's dependents. The feudal system in period was largely about fairly nuanced and specific contracts -- if anything, the SCA tends to oversimplify things...

[identity profile] baron-steffan.livejournal.com 2007-09-11 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Let it be recognized that "household" can mean many different things. I've described what Silverwing is there for. I'm in another household myself, with another purpose: Ancaster. One might say it's my household in the sense that the term is usually used in the SCA. For one thing, they're the guys I camp with. But then, Ancaster itself is a consortium of members representing Silverwing, Schola Lucernae, Wishford Hall, Lockwood, VDK, and several other households from Bridge and Endewearde.


The relevant point here is that neither [profile] jducouer's and [personal profile] msmemory's other household connections, nor the activities of their dependents, are affected in any way by their membership in Silverwing. Their households -- Silverwing, Windsmeet, Lochleven -- all serve different purposes.