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msmemory_archive ([personal profile] msmemory_archive) wrote2004-05-26 02:28 pm
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Papers, bitte

Eish. They've started checking IDs on the Green Line. Apparently, if you are innocent, you are not supposed to mind.
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[identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com 2004-05-26 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
What if you don't have a driver's license? I ran into this a number of times (I got my license "late", at 21). People wouldn't believe who I was. As if a piece of plastic is more me than *me*. Sigh.

The right of police to demand your ID is currently before SCOTUS, if I remember correctly...or did we already lose this one?

Maybe I'll start making up "SUSPECTED TERRORIST" buttons and handing them out on the Green line. We are all, now, suspected terrorists.
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[personal profile] dsrtao 2004-05-26 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
The right of police to demand your ID is currently before SCOTUS, if I remember correctly...or did we already lose this one?

Hiibol vs Nevada. In progress, currently.

Even if I have ID, I will refuse to identify myself without an adequate reason from the officer in question.
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[identity profile] alexx-kay.livejournal.com 2004-05-26 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you given some thought to what you would accept as "adequate reason"? They're unlikely to have warrants. Personally, I am finding "I am a big scary man with a gun and the (practical, though perhaps illegal) power to arrest you" argument to be fairly compelling. I'm still mulling over where to draw the line between personal comfort and important civil disobedience on this one...
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[personal profile] dsrtao 2004-05-26 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I have. The officer should clearly state the reason for the request for identification, the reason I am being stopped, and whether he/she suspects me of any crimes (and if so, what, exactly), or what events I am thought to have witnessed.

I am a big nice man who, if carrying a gun, is doing so legally. Arrest is a very important line to cross. The police only have what powers we give them; the power to coerce identification is extremely limited.
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